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vailed, and he trusted would ever prevail into the possession of an individual who in this country. The troops of Great would be too happy, if parliament agreed Britain went forth to fight for the interests to the proposed vote, to surrender it in and tranquillity of other nations as well as order that it might be handed down to of their own; and their officers, although posterity, as the spot granted by the legis. they might accept the honours conferred lature in testimony of their approbation of on them by the legitimate sovereigns of the services of that illustrious individual the countries in whose cause they were by whom that title was first assumed. contending, were not disposed to avail With this view, he was persuaded that the shemselves of any pecuniary advantage, Committee would deem that he best disunless it flowed from the country to which charged his duty by proposing that a sum. they belonged.—He now came io consider of money shculd be vested in trustees for what, under all the circumstances of the the purchase of lauds to descend with the case, it appeared to bim to be becoming title of Wellington, and to be enjoyed by in parliament to grant in the present in the future representatives of the noble mar. ştance. If he had to consider 'lord Wel. quis

. He would, therefore, not trespass lington's services in a similar point of further on the time of the House, but conview to that which called forth the muni.clude with moving, " That it is the opi. ficence of parliament on a former occasion nion of this Committee, that a sum, not -if he had to consider them under cir- exceeding 100,0001. be granted to his cumstances similar to those under which Majesty, to be vested in truslees, for the lord Nelson's services had been considered use of the marquis of Wellington and such --if such a calamity had occurred as the other persons on whom the title of marquis death of the noble marquis (and no greater of Wellington shall descend, and to be calamity could befall the country than employed in the purchase of lands, tenethe loss of such a treasure); if the noble ments and hereditaments to accompany marquis were by such a melancholy oc- the said title, and that the said sum be currence put out of the reach of the fur- issued and paid without any fee or other ther favour of the crown and the further deduction whatsoever.” notice of parliament, he should then, in Mr. Whicshed Keene did not rise for the submitting a proposition to the Committee purpose of opposing the motion.

In all on behalf of the noble marquis's family, military cases, when a reward was asked, be influenced by a very different feeling; proper attention should be paid in proporbut, considering that lord Wellington was tioning it to the quantity of forces by comparatively young in the service, con- which the achievement had been persidering that he was placed in a great formed; but the success of the marquis of crisis, which had, indeed, principally Wellington, especially considering the arisen out of the noble lord's own exer- means he had at his disposal, had far surtions in the peninsula ; considering that passed the most sanguine expectations. he might yet render important advantages Considering the price of landed property, to his country and to the world, he was he did not conceive the present grant as not willing, however high bis merit, that too considerable, and when he reflected the honours of the crown and the bounty that the marquis of Wellington's services of parliament should be at once exhausted were warm in the minds of every one, he upon him. Under these circumstances even thought that the House might have he was anxious to submit to the Commit. I gove farther. tee such a proposition as should at once Sir Francis Burdett said, that however mark their sense of his great and glorious strong the claims of lord Wellington might services, and their recollection that he be, he could not think that they were might, and in all probability would, ex- much advanced by the advocacy of the perience the further favour of the sore. noble lord or of the hon. gentleman who reign and the further bounty of parlia. had just sat down. The noble lord had ment. An additional motive to a concur- dwelt, with much satifaction, on the pecu. rence in the vote which he should have liar advantages and blessings of our happy the honour to propose, and which he was constitution, under which such opportuni. sure that the Committee would seize with ties were afforded of rewarding merit; avidity, was, that by a happy coincidence but before this praise was entirely acof circumstances, the manor of Wellington, quiesced in, there were two considerations from which the noble lord derived his which presented themselves to those who title, had passed from its former owner were appointed the guardians of the public property-namely, 'the merit of the that of general Moore. Though a retreat claimant in ihe first place, and in the se. might be no proof of demerit on the part cond, one of not inferior importance, out of a general, he could not think it furof what fund the proposed remuneration nished grounds on which to call for par. ought to come. On this last point he was liamentary remuneration. To him, as a of opinion, that while such enormous funds man of a plain way of thinking, it appearwere in the hands and at the disposal of ed, that the results of the campaign had government, and while the amount of been disaster and defeat. The victory of taxation was so great and so complicated, Salamanca appeared to be a victory as to render its collection in a great de forced upon lord Wellington. After that gree impossible-while all this was the victory he could wish it to be explained case, ministers ought to be asbained to whether it was good conduct to proceed apply to the public porse. In the re. against Burgos, whether in the conduct of sources and the patronage they possessed, that siege there was a want of ability in there were surely abundant means of re- the commander, whether the project was muneration; and it should be recollected, a bad one, or whether the ministers of this ibat when there was a general outcry country had given him positive orders to against the number of sinecure places, the advance against it without furnishing him ready and constant answer was, that these with the means of taking it. In one of places in the hands of government enabled lord Wellington's dispatches there was a them to reward the services performed by singular paragraph; “ Your lordship is the servants of the public. If this were aware I had little hopes of success at the defence, there could be no doubt that i Burgos; yet after the battle of Salamanca the funds accruing from those places it was necessary to proceed against should be appropriated as they were said Burgos, to ensure the success of the camto be. But there was also another fund on paign.” Thus, then, the consequence of which it would have been more becoming that victory was disaster. He did not in ministers to have drawn-he meant the wish to undervalue the services of Lord Droits of Admiralty, which strictly ought Wellington, but the victories he bad gainto be appropriated to reward the services ed in Spain had none of the characteristics of naval officers, except where they were which distinguished those of the duke of applied to the purpose which had been Marlborough. The advantages that gestated the other night, of indemnity in the neral gained he retained; yet it was not case of American captures, in the event till after the decisive battle of Blenheim of a peace with that power. But when that parliament rewarded bis services. this fund was employed in grants to the Now in the peninsula it had been observed, princes of the blood, who did not hesitate and by military men too, that marquis to accept of them, and in other purposes Wellington had brought his army into difequally foreign from their original and ficulties, but his men had fought him out proper designation, he then thought that of them again, and that in the capture of it might also be found fit to apply them the fortresses which he had won, a waste on the present occasion also. 'With re- of life was to be complained of. This he spect to the conduct of the noble marquis understood to have been the case at who was the subject of the present motion, Ciudad Rodrigo and Badajoz, which the noble lord had told them that re places had been stormed without a breach treat was no proof of demerit; unques- being previously made. A similar comtionably not; and there were many in- plaint he had heard respecting Burgos. stances on record of late years, in which He did not wish to divide the House on retreats had been conducted in such a the grant, but he wished to move that the manner, and under such circumstances, as consideration of the grant should be deplaced them far beyond the most bril- ferred till some enquiry had been made liant victories; but this was the first time into this extraordinary campaign. He he ever heard that there was merit or did not see that flattering success wbich glory in a most disastrous retreat. He was the noble lord thought he saw in the not perfectly sure that the military hospi. siege of Cadiz having been raised by tals had not been abandoned, but from all the enemy. The cause of Spain to him that could be known from returns, private appeared infinitely more hopeless than it lotters, &c. there was reason to believe was at the commencement of the cam

it the losses incurred in the retreat paign. If lord Wellington had never · Burgos were not much less than in marched to Madrid, and if he had not


gained the batile of Salamanca, there baronet possibly have got his information? would have been infinitely more hope than He had talked of our hospitals having been there was after those events had taken abandoned ; in this, however, he could place, seeing the Spaniards had not joined assure him, that he had been completely us with that spirit with which ministers de- misinformed. Some few of our sick, luded themselves, and would fain delude whose removal would have been attended the House to believe in existence. The with certain death, had been, perhaps, reverse of this appeared to him to be the left behind in the hospitals, as was usual fact, and therefore he thought the case of in such cases; but he could assure the the peninsula more deplorable than ever. hon. baronet for his satisfaction, that the He wished to move, «ihat the considera. retreat had been effected in the most tion of the grant be deferred till after the complete order. There was no baste, holidays.”

no trepidation, no uncertainty ; the meaMr. Robinson observed, that though the sure had been foreseen, formed a part hon. baronet had professed his ignorance of a general plan, and all the neces. of military affairs, he had nevertheless sary precautions had been taken. The dealt with no sparing hand in military enemy did not come up in force against

The hon. baronet's opinions our army-there were only partial affairs were so erroneous, that he could not pos between the van-guards and the rearsibly conceive how he had formed them, guards, and the amount of the loss on or where he had procured his information. each day, except the last, had been transHe had talked indeed of military autho- mitted by the marquis of Wellington, and rities, but without naming them, and he regularly inserted in the Gazette. On was aware that it would be useless to that last day, the noble general had inpress the hon. baronet on that head. He deed mentioned that our troops had sufhad asserted that Ciudad Rodrigo had fered severely, but nothing very disastrous been stormed before a breach had been could be concluded from that expression, effected; the contrary was notorious; a as the distant cannonading had lasted only breach had been first effected, and that one day, and as the enemy had afterwards breach, although most gallantly defended, desisted from following our troops.-Adwas stormed afterwards; nor did he think verting next to the hon. baronet's histothat all the anonymous military authorities, rical recollections, the hon. gentleman quoted by the hon. baronet, could point out was sorry to find that in this he was no to him

any other way of taking a town. At more at home than be was on military afBadajoz iwo breaches had been effected, fairs. The hon, baronet had stated that it and it was owing to the attention of the was not till after the battle of Blenheim enemy being diverted by a front attack that the duke of Marlborough had receivon those very breaches, that general Pico ed parliamentary remuneration; it was a ton succeeded in converting his false at- fact, however, that long before that battle, tack on the castle into a real one-a case and as early as the 10th of December in not unfrequent in war, and always within the year 1702, the duke of Marlborough the calculations of the general, as was the had received from parliament an annuity case with the marquis of Wellington. of 5,000l. ;* and Blenheim was, besides, The same mistake seemed as if fatally to the first victory of any importance he had follow the hon. baronet when talking of the obtained. Not so with the marquis of attack on Burgos, for no less than five Wellington : it was not for the victory of breaches had been effected in that fortress, Salamanca alone that the vote of 100,0001. by sapping and mining. It was true the was demanded for the noble marquis. storming did not succeed, because the The whole of his life had been devoted to place was most bravely and ably de. the service of his country. All the advanfended ; indeed such a resistance sel- tages obtained in Spain were owing to his dom was exhibited; but in the failure of military genius, and if ever there was a that enterprize, of which he never enter- case which called for an expression of na

any sanguine hopes, he was at a tional gratitude, it was the case of the loss to discover how lord Wellington was marquis of Wellington. to blame. The hon. gentleman next ad. Sir Frederick Flood was sorry that the verted to the picture drawn

of lord defalcation in the revenue, during the two Vellington's retreat by the hon. baronet, at which he could not sufficiently express

* See the Parliamentary History, rol. Where could the bon. 6, p. 57. (VOL. XXIV.)



his astonishment.

last years, prevented him from making thought, with respect to those distresses, the motion he at first intended to submit that there was a time to speak of them, to the House, which was to double the and a time to forbear. And he was sure, sum proposed to be voted for lord Wel. that the commercial interests of the counlington, besides a monument to be erected try would feel indignant, were they to in the country which gave him birth, he hear that their distresses stood in the way meant Ireland, for he was Ireland's pride of the munificence of parliament. Instead and England's hope. It was cruel to im- of looking upon these distresses as a reapose titles on men who had served their son for a small or inadequate remuneracountry, without at the same time giving tion to lord Wellington, he would recomthem the means of supporting them. He mend to his Majesty's ministers a rigid was now a marquis : he might next be economy in the several departments of the made a duke, without the means of sup- state and in the public expenditure, and porting those bigb dignities. It was a this was the source from which he thought maiden grant, and ought to be vigorously that a well-timed generosity might most executed (a laugh.) We should have in effectually arise. By an union of the one this metropolis a Wellington-house, as and other, this would not only be a great well as a Marlborough-house, and he and a powerful, but a prosperous, an should give his most hearty assent to a united, and a happy nation. proposition for such an object.

Lord Cochrane expressed his regret, that Mr. Protheroe, in a maiden speech, said instead of internal warfare, a system of be should not follow the noble lord, or external annoyance was not adopted, the hon. baronet, through the military which, he contended, would be productive details into which they had entered ; 'but of the greatest advantages to the country, he must say, that he thought the hon. ba- and would not only be more serviceable to ronet had been guilty of the indiscretion the cause of Russia, but would enable gowhich he unfoundedly charged on the vernment to dictate terms of peace to Buomarquis of Wellington-he had made an naparté. This the noble lord thought so attack where there was no breach. Had plain, as to preclude the necessity of dethe hon. baronet considered the subject monstration. He concluded by assenting with more deliberation, he must have to the motion, as he was convinced that seen, that there might be such a thing as lord Wellington bad done every thing á bold advance without rashness, and a which he could possibly have done, under skilful retreat without disgrace. He all the circumstances in which he was thought the House should cheerfully agree placed. to the Message of the Prince Regent. Mr. Whitbread had had the misfortune Even posthumous honours were useful, and to differ heretofore with a majority of the were paid to the immortal lord Nelson, as House, both with respect to the merits and à stimulus to naval exertion : but with services of lord Wellington, and the rehow much greater satisfaction should we muneration which was bestowed upon be struck, if we could see the Nelson of them. With respect, however, to the the army,—the man whose name, like his, grant which was now proposed, it met might become the common appellative of with his entire approbation. By acceding a hero, - living among us, and reaping the to this vote, he did not conceive that he honours due to his services, in the munifi. was expressing any opinion with respect ficence, the admiration, and affection of to the situation of things in Spain : he at his countrymen? He hoped that nothing present wished to be considered as having would interfere to detract from that muni consented to the vole merely in consideficence, and to diminish that admiring af- ration of lord Wellington's own merits. If fection. The hon. baronet had alluded to he had differed in opinion with others the distresses of the country; but, al. when the thanks of the House were asked though he thought himself as well ac- for lord Wellington after the battle of Taquainted with them, at least with the lavera, it was not because he did not think mercantile distresses, as the hon. baronet, that the battle of Talavera was a great afhe should not enter on the topic at present, fair, but because he thought that lord as a fitter time would by and bye occur Wellington had got his army into a great for that discussion : he felt as deeply scrape, and that his army had fought r them, and wished as ardently to relieve bravely and extricated him. But he did em, as any of those persons who most in- not wish now to repeat what he had ged in lamentations over them; yet he thought or said on former occasions.


was not a military man; and when he was tained. He had beaten Marmont, Mascalled on in his place to decide on the sena, and the pretended king of Spain ; merits of military men, it was hisduty to give and he thought that by the taking of Mathe best opinion which he could form under drid he would rouse that spirit in the all the circumstances of the case. It was Spaniards, which then lay dormant, and the less to be wondered at that he had not which is still latent. He hoped that they formed a correct estimate of the merits of would begin to do better than they had lord Wellington at that time, as his plan formerly done. He afterwards advanced had not developed itself till the first re- and cummenced the siege of Burgos, and treat of marshal Massena, which led to during that advance he believed that geoperations at last terminating in the battle neral Clausel had shewn himself a worthy of Salamanca. By this developement he antagonist. In the siege of Burgos he had bad stamped his character as a great ge- certainly failed, -not because he had not. neral. The operations of both the French made both breaches and assaults ;--for, and the English generals were masterly from the account of the gallant Dubreton It had been acknowledged by lord Wel. himself, which he had that day seen in the lington, that he had never seen a more newspaper, it appeared that no fewer than masterly retreat than Massena's; and the five breaches and assaults had been made, emperor of the French was understood to —but because these breaches and assaults have been well pleased with that retreat. had all been successfully withstood. An It had in particular been recorded of the hon. gentleman who had spoken before part which marshal Ney had had in that him, and who always spoke well on affair, that it was one of the most merito every question (Mr. Robinson), took off rious military retreats ever known. With from the merit of lord Wellingion, by not respect to the sieges of Ciudad Rodrigo, stating the case as it exactly was.

Wbe. Badajoz and Burgos, never was more con. ther the siege of Burgos was proper or not summate valour and desperate courage was a military question, which it was shewn than on these occasions. At the not for him to decide; but he was siege of Badajoz, Philippon, and his brave bound to suppose that lord Wellington troops, did every thing it was possible for had good reasons for the siege. After men to do, before surrendering; but by what he had seen, he thought it was no the masterly conduct of the British, and wonder if he expected to make up in celein a particular manner by the efforts made rity what he wanted in strength. He cerby general Picton, that important fortress tainly had in the course of this campaign fell into the hands of lord Wellington. In afforded Spain a great opportunity of makwar, the commander who attempted such ing exertions in its own cause. He could daring achievements as these had only to not agree with the noble lord in the solishow that they had succeeded to justify loquy which he, the other night, put into the undertaking them. He must pity the the mouth of that gallant commander, bebrave men who fell in the siege of Ciudad ginning with “My great genius;” but he Rodrigo; but my lord Wellington had believed that the noble lord had conductsucceeded in that undertaking; and by ed the campaign with considerable milithat noble daring he had saved many lives tary skill; and it appeared by interceptwhich would have been lost at other places, ed communications and other channels of so that the waste of lives during the whole information, that the French marshals campaign was on that account less than if themselves, entertained an high opinion of that siege had not taken place. The plan his lordship's military skill, from the manof lord Wellington had been brought to a ner in which he conducted his retreating close, at the battle of Salamanca. He be. army across the Agueda. He was conlieved he had never intended to fight that vinced that the House and the country at battle ; he was then in full retreat, and de- large, were fully sensible that lord Weltermined to continue that retreat. The lington had performed great military sermost skilful maneuvring took place on vices; and if the crown thought proper both sides for two days, till at the last an to reward them with the honour of a maropportunity was given him, by the fault quisate, the House and the public would of the French general, which led to the think it right to vote him immediately the victory. The pursuit of the French was means of supporting that dignity, without carried on for some time, and at last waiting for the discussion of what might abandoned. Ils object was the liberation be spared from indirect and precarious of Madrid, and that object had been at funds, the application of which might

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