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last years, prevented him from making , thought, with respect to those distresses, the motion he at first intended to submit that there was a time to speak of them, to tbe House, which was to double the and a time to forbear. And he was sure, sum proposed to be voted for lord Wel. that the commercial interests of the counlington, besides a monument to be erected try would feel indignant, were they to in the country which gave him birth, he hear that their distresses stood in the way meant Ireland, for he was Ireland's pride of the munificence of parliament. Instead and England's hope. It was cruel to im- of looking upon these distresses as a reapose titles on men who had served their son for a small or inadequate remuneracountry, without at the same time giving tion to lord Wellington, he would recomthem the means of supporting them. He mend to his Majesty's ministers a rigid was now a marquis : he might next be economy in the several departments of the made a duke, without the means of sup- state and in the public expenditure, and porting those high dignities. It was a this was the source from which he thought maiden grant, and ought to be vigorously that a well-timed generosity might most executed (a laugh.) We should have in effectually arise. By an union of the one this metropolis a Wellington-house, as and other, this would not only be a great well as a Marlborough-house, and he and a powerful, but a prosperous, an should give his most hearty assent to a united, and a happy nation. proposition for such an object.

Lord Cochrane expressed his regret, that Mr. Protheroe, in a maiden speech, said instead of internal warfare, a system of he should not follow the noble lord, or external annoyance was not adopted, the hon. baronet, through the military which, he contended, would be productive details into which they had entered ; 'but of the greatest advantages to the country, he must say, that he thought the bon. ba- and would not only be more serviceable to ronet had been guilty of the indiscretion the cause of Russia, but would enable gowhich he unfoundedly charged on the vernment to dictate terms of peace to Boomarquis of Wellington-he had made an naparté. This the noble lord thought so attack where there was no breach. Had plain, as to preclude the necessity of dethe hon. baronet considered the subject monstration. He concluded by assenting with more deliberation, he must have to the motion, as he was convinced that seen, that there might be such a thing as lord Wellington had done every thing à bold advance without rashness, and a which he could possibly have done, under skilful retreat without disgrace. He all the circumstances in which he was thought the House should cheerfully agree placed. to the Message of the Prince Regent. Mr. Whitbread had had the misfortune Even posthumous honours were useful, and to differ heretofore with a majority of the were paid to the immortal lord Nelson, as House, both with respect to the merits and á stimulus to naval exertion : but with services of lord Wellington, and the rehow much greater satisfaction should we muneration which was bestowed upon be struck, if we could see the Nelson of them. With respect, however, to the the army,—the man whose name, like his, grant which was now proposed, it met might become the common appellative of with his entire approbation. By acceding a hero, living among us, and reaping the to this vote, he did not conceive that he honours due to his services, in the munifi- was expressing any opinion with respect ficence, the admiration, and affection of to the situation of things in Spain : he at his countrymen? He hoped that nothing present wished to be considered as having would interfere to detract from that muni consented to the vole merely in consider ficence, and to diminish that admiring

af- ration of lord Wellington's own merits. If fection. The hon. baronet had alluded to he had differed in opinion with others the distresses of the country; but, al. when the thanks of the House were asked though he thought himself as well ac- for lord Wellington after the battle of Ta, quainted with them, at least with the lavera, it was not because he did not think mercantile distresses, as the hon. baronet, that the battle of Talavera was a great af he should not enter on the topic at present, fair, but because he thought that lord as a fitter time would by and bye occur Wellington had got his army into a great for that discussion : be felt as deeply scrape, and that his army had fought for them, and wished as ardently to relieve bravely and extricated him. But he did them, as any of those persons who most in not wish now to repeat what he had dulged

in lamentations over them; yet he thought or said on former occasions. He

was not a military man; and when he was tained. He had beaten Marmont, Mascalled on in his place to decide on the sena, and the pretended king of Spain; merits of military men, it was his duty to give and he thought that by the taking of Mathe best opinion which he could form under drid he would rouse that spirit in the all the circumstances of the case. It was Spaniards, which then lay dormant, and the less to be wondered at that he had not wbich is still Jatent. He hoped that they formed a correct estimate of the merits of would begin to do better than they had lord Wellington at that time, as his plan formerly done. He afterwards advanced had not developed itself till the first re- and cummenced the siege of Burgos, and treat of marshal Massena, which led to during that advance he believed that

ge. operations at last terminating in the battle neral Clausel had shewn himself a worthy of Salamanca. By this developement he antagonist. In the siege of Burgos he had had stamped his character as a great ge- certainly failed, -not because he had not. neral. The operations of both the French made both breaches and assaulls ;-for, and the English generals were masterly. from the account of the gallant Dubreton It had been acknowledged by lord Wel himself, which he had that day seen in the lington, that he had never seen a more newspaper, it appeared that no fewer than masterly retreat than Massena's; and the five breaches and assaults had been made, emperor of the French was understood to - but because these breaches and assaulis have been well pleased with that retreat. I had all been successfully withstood. An It had in particular been recorded of the hon. gentleman who had spoken before part which marshal Ney had had in that him, and who always spoke well on affair, that it was one of the most merito- every question (Mr. Robinson), took off rious military retreats ever known. With from the merit of lord Wellingion, by not respect to the sieges of Ciudad Rodrigo, stating the case as it exactly was. WheBadajoz and Burgos, never was more con. ther the siege of Burgos was proper or not summate valour and desperate courage was a military question, which it was shewn than on these occasions. At the not for him to decide; but he was siege of Badajoz, Philippon, and his brave bound to suppose that lord Wellington troops, did every thing it was possible for had good reasons for the siege. After men to do, before surrendering; but by what he had seen, he thought it was no the masterly conduct of the British, and wonder if he expected to make up in celein a particular manner by the efforts made rity what he wanted in strength. He cerby general Picton, that important fortress tainly had in the course of this campaign fell into the hands of lord Wellington. In afforded Spain a great opportunity of makwar, the commander who attempted such ing exertions in its own cause. He could daring achievements as these had only to not agree with the noble lord in the solishow that they had succeeded to justify loquy which he, the other night, put into the undertaking them. He must pity the the mouth of that gallant commander, bebrave men who fell in the siege of Ciudad ginning with " My great genius ;' but he Rodrigo; but my lord Wellington bad believed that the noble lord had conductsucceeded in that undertaking; and by ed the campaign with considerable milithat noble daring he had saved many lives tary skill; and it appeared by interceptwhich would have been lost at other places, ed communications and other channels of so that the waste of lives during the whole information, that the French marshals campaign was on that account less than if themselves, entertained an high opinion of that siege had not taken place. The plan his lordship's military skill, from the manof lord Wellington had been brought to a ner in which he conducted his retreating close, at the battle of Salamanca. He be army across the Agueda. He was conJieved he had never intended to fight that vinced that the House and the country at battle; he was then in full retreat, and de- large, were fully sensible that lord Wel. termined to continue that retreat. The lington had performed great military ser. most skilful maneuvring took place on vices; and if the crown thought proper both sides for two days, till at the last an to reward them with the honour of a mar. opportunity was given him, by the fault quisate, the House and the public would of the French general, which led to the think it right to vote him immediately the victory. The pursuit of the French was means of supporting that dignity, without carried on for some time, and at last waiting for the discussion of what might abandoned. Ils object was the liberation be spared from indirect and precarious of Madrid, and that object had been at funds, the application of which might form a subject of distinct consideration on splendid or too generous. No man who a future occasion. He did not like the looked back at what our military policy comparisons which had been made be- was some time ago, and compared it with tween the noble lord and the duke of our present views and character, but must Marlborough. Each of those illustrious see that through the success and merits of commanders had sufficient merits of their lord Wellington we had become a military own, upon which their fame might rest; people, and that by a series of achievebut since the comparison had been made, ments, each rising above the other in he would say, that it was precisely upon grandeur, he had, although yet in the pecuniary points that the character of the youth of his glory, acquired for himself a duke of Marlborough was vulnerable ; renown equal to that of the first captain whereas upon those points the disinterest of his age.

When the House looked back edness of lord Wellington was perfectly to that period at which our warlike preknown; and in those points he was a parations were confined to plans of fortitruly meritorious servant of the public. fying the Thames instead of driving the We were told that some great statesmen enemy beyond the Tormes and the Ebro, were somewhere to be found who would they could not fail, not merely to recog. have done a great deal more in the penin. nise in lord Wellington the decus et tosula, if they had been in office. He did tamen patriæ,' as one who had not merely not wish to see those conjurors in office, as formed a school in wbich others might be he thought that the resources of the country taught to succeed and follow bim in his were already strained as far as they would career of glory, but to perceive in him at bear in the prosecution of the war. The the same time the hero, who, whilst he right hon. the Chancellor of the Esche- wielded the thunder of his native land, quer had, in his defence of ministers, told was the tutelar genius of allied and dethe House, the other night, that they had pendent states, the protector of oppressed spent upwards of eleven millions on this and prostrate powers. The picture which war, in the course of the last eleven history would trace, for the instruction of months. Now as he was sure that every posterity, would unite, therefore, with the thing contided to ford Wellington had figure of the successful commander, the been employed with judgment, he thought attributes of a benevolent spirit, extending a vote of 100,000l. not too much to reward a guardian influence over recovering, his great services. He, therefore, entirely though fallen nations. All must admit, concurred in the grant of the sum pro | that by the exertion in Spain, Europe had posed, and thought that it should be been enabled to reflect on her condition ; given by a direct vote.

and when Buonaparte's situation, though Mr. Canning declared, that he should perhaps not irretrievable, was contemdeein it an encroachment upon the time plated, we had not only evidence of this, and a waste of the attention of the House, but an illustration of the different prinif after the opinions expressed and the mi- ciples on which the war was conducted. litary criticisms delivered on this occasion, Lord Wellington advancing to the suche were to attempt to do more than to cour and liberation of Spain - Buonaparté slate how fully he participated in the ad- marching to the devastation of Russia, ex. miration felt at lord Wellington's achieve hibited striking examples of the different ments, and in a sense of the justness of objects by which the two empires were that remuneration which had been pro- directed in their mutual hostility. At posed. He was inclined to concur most such a moment, when cordially with the proposition, not only

Expectation sits in the air on those grounds which had been adverted And hides a sword from bilt unto the poiot, to, particularly by an hon. gentleman (Mr. With crowns, imperial crowns and coronetsProtheroe) who formed one example of it might not be useless to compare the rethe acquisitions which the new parliament wards which Buonaparte was anticipating had made, but on others of a more general from conquest and desolation, with those nature. He concurred in it from a feel. pure enjoyments which lord Wellington ing, that we had within the last few years sought for in the acknowledgments of a raised ourselves to the same equality at benefited and grateful country. An hon. land, more than which we had possessed baronet had expressed a wish that the sum at sea, and that to the individual to whom proposed to be voted should be taken from we owed this augmentation of glory and other funds. For his own part he was advantage, no remuneration could be too confident that the people would feel de


frauded, were they to be deprived of the could be brought with safety before the opportunity of doing justice to their great barristers, without, in case of escape, subcommander, and if the House were to at. jecting the gaolers to responsibility ; betempt to scrape up a provision out of the sides, there was another material defect, leavings of obscure and secret funds, he for after the barristers had inquired, which felt that they ought not to pollute the vote, they had done by going themselves to by seeming to apologise for the gratitude each of the prisons in the metropolis, they evinced, or by endeavouring to show they had reported to their respective that they were grateful at no expence. courts the result of their examinations ; He rather hoped that they would be and yet no direction was given how the anxious to show, that as the crown had discharge was to be made out. Under run before them in one instance, they these circumstances, it was necessary to were resolved to keep pace with its wishes apply to the legislature, and the Bill which in another. He understood it was pro- he held in his hand was calculated to reposed to lay out the 100,000l. in the pur- medy these defects. It provided, that the chase of lands to be attached to the title barristers should have more ample power; of Wellington. Now, lord Wellington's that a warrant might be issued under their children were all sons, but they might hands, authorising the gaolers to bring behave only female issue. He presumed fore then the prisoners described ; it also that it was not intended the title should provided, that the barristers might admi. fail in that case. He thought it necessary nister the necessary oath, which was left not only that the immediate descendants unexpressed in the former act; and further of such a man should be provided for, but directed the investment of the prisoners' that the grant of that night should insure property in the hands of the clerk of the to their posterity that result which Eng. peace of the county, for the benefit of Jishmen could not but wish to see,-as a

their creditors. Another provision was, lasting monument to the memory of their that the decision of the barristers should great ancestor.

be final. With respect to the bringing Lord Castlereagh observed, that matter up of prisoners noi confined in the gaols would come to be considered in the Bill. of the metropolis, it was directed they It was the wish of ministers that the grant should be brought up by application for should be made on the most liberal prin- a Habeas Corpus to one of the judges of ciples.

the Court. The noble and learned lord Sir F. Burdett's Amendment was then having stated the nature of this Bill, put and negatived without a division. moved that it now be read a first time. After which the original Resolution was The Bill was accordingly read the first agreed 10.




Tuesday, December 8.

Tuesday, December 8.

CATHOLIC Lord Ellenborough, in presenting this Bill to Claims, FROM THE University of Camtheir lordships' consideration, took occa- BRIDGE.) Lord Palmerston presented a sion to remark, that the Insolvent Debtors' Petition from the chancellor, masters, and Act of last session had contained a clause, scholars of the University of Cambridge, extending relief to debtors confined for against the Claims of the Roman Catholics. sums exceeding 2,0001., but great doubt His lordship observed, that an idea having and difficulty had arisen in attempting to gone forth that this Petition bad been carry this clause into execution. The framed and determined upon, without the provisions of that part of the act directed, usual notice for non-residents to attend that a barrister of each court should be ap- the convocation, he thought it proper to pointed, under the chief justices and the state, that a notice of six days had been chief baron, to meet and examine into the given, which exceeded by three days that respective cases of those who intended to which was given on ordinary occasions.take the benefit. But this clause having The Petition was then read, setting forth, been added to the Bill, had subjected its “ That the petitioners understand, with

considerable deficiency. great anxiety, that a Bill is soon to be ofOne omission was, that no power or direc- fered to the House for the removal of the tion was given, whereby these prisoners restrictions which are imposed by law on

execution to

those who profess the Roman Catholic qualified repeal of those laws on which the religion in these realms; and that the pe. remaining Catholic disabilities depend, titioners are fully convinced that the con- would be inconsistent with the spirit and trol of any foreign power implied in such safety of the British constitution, and the Bill over the government of this country laws which have been enacted for the seeither in Church or State, is not only in- curity and defence of the Protestant estaconsistent with the form of our constitu- blished religion, particularly the Act of Settion, as established at the Revolution, but tlement, whereby the crown is limited to his moreover, by destroying the independency present Majesty's illustrious House, which of our Church and nation, is contrary to the act secures our religion, laws, and liberties, first principles of all civil government; and and which the statute declares to be the that the power of the Pope, though for birthright of the people of England : and various reasons diminished in the public that the petitioners therefore watch with estimation, is notwithstanding more to be jealousy those bold demands which aim dreaded by us now than ever, being itself to subvert our guardian securities, and brought under the control, and, if occasion humbly pray, that the House in its wisshould offer, likely to become the dan- dom will deem it expedient to defer the gerous instrument, of a foreign and in consideration of this great question till the veterate enemy; and that the petitioners Roman Catholics urge claims with that are the more confirmed in the appre- temper and moderation which would best hensions of foreign interference, by ob- become their appeal to the bighest authoserving that, notwithstanding all the con- rity of the state.' cessions made of late years by our legis. The said Petitions were ordered to lie lature in favour of the Roman Catholics, upon the table. yet the tenets of their Church have admitted of no relaxation, but continue the Galway ELECTION-PETITION OF JORN same as ever, particularly those the most Joyce AND OTHERS.) A Petition of Joha obnoxious and dangerous, of still advanc. Joyce, Pat. M. Lynch, John Lynchi, ing and maintaining the supremacy of Alex. Nicholas Browne, James Finn, the Pope, in all spiritual matters, above and John French Madden, was read; the supremacy of our own sovereign; and setting forth, that the petitioners, as becomes a Pro- “ That, at the late general election for testant University, have never been ad- the town and county of the town of Gal. verse to the rights of toleration or liberty way, Valentine Blake of Menlo, in the of conscience, to which they are and have county of said town, was a candidate been most sincere well wishers; but they to represent the said town and county of are most seriously alarmed at the idea en- the town of Galway in parliament; and on tertained of admitting Roman Catholics that occasion, the hon. Frederick Ponsonby to legislate for a Protestant Church, to was also a candidate for the like purpose; which, as we have thus scen, they are and that, by virtue of divers charters, from principle and systematically hostile; there exists in the town of Galway, which and praying, that no such Bill may pass is and was a great town in the reign of into a law."

Henry the 7th, a corporation known by

the name of the mayor, sheriffs, free bur. PETITION AGAINST

CATHOLIC gesses, and commonalty of the town and CLAIMS, FROM THE BOROUGH

op Gean. county of the town of Galway; and that THAM.] A Petition of the aldermen, re. the right of election is vested in the freecorder, comburgesses, and burgesses of holders thereof, and also in the freemen of the borough of Grantham, in the county the said corporation of said town when of Lincoln, and inhabitants of the said lawfully admitted and duly qualified to borough, and the soke and vicinity thereof, vote on such elections, the said freemen was also presented and read; setting being a component part of the commonalty forth,

of the said corporation, and that the said .“ That although the petitioners enter- election, which commenced on the 1616, tain towards the Roman Catholics no spirit continued from day to day until the 31st of intolerance, no desire of dominion, yet of October last, during which period cere it is their firm opinion that, in unqualified tain voters, to the number of 159 freemen concession, the constitution is exposed to and freeholders, duly qualified, voted for a new, an untried, and a great danger; the said V. Blake, and certain persons, to and that the petitioners consider the un- the number of 311, were permitted by the


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