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rectness in the right hon. gentleman's , small sum which they were that night statement of what had been said, but be called on to vote, afford them relief? cause that had been spoken of as to be Though the contest in Russia might have applied in aid of the government, which a tendency to increase our own security, was intended for the relief of the people. yet to imagine that this 200,000l. could The right hon. gentleman had justly be a bond of unity between that nation stated, ibat more good would be done to and ourselves, would be to contradict the our manufacturers by granting this sum to testimony of experience. It bad been the conciliate Russia, than by doling it out interest of Russia to enter into amity with among them; bat with this had been us; she had acted in pursuance of that in

up the consideration of our policy as terest, and in accordance with that in. to America. Without attempting to enter terest she would act hereafter. It had on this question at present, it was not so been said, that committees of nobles had clear as that right hon. gentleman seemed been formed that the emperor had exertto imply, that hostilities had arisen en ed himself to afford' relief, by rebuilding tirely from the misconduct of government, habitations, and by alleviating the poige and not at all from the spirit of the Ame- nant misery of the sufferers. It did, inricans. He was astonished to hear the deed, behove the Russian government to right hon. gentleman speak as he had do away with all the pomp of state-o done of the Sinecure Offices' Bill. It was apply all the resources of the empire to true, that by a total disregard of vested in this object: it was more particularly the terests, a fund might be produced; but as duty of that government to do so, from to the Bill, it had been acknowledged last the commission of an act, singular in mosession by the hon. gentleman who pro- dern history—the conflagration of Mosposed it, that though it would be grateful cow. This grant could be considered as to public feeling, yet in a pecuniary sense no other than a subsidy in aid of the war it would be nugatory.

in Russia ; for by discharging the Russian Mr. Ponsonby, in explanation, said, that government of the duty of applying a sum as it was the duty of ihe Russian govern- equal to this to its suffering subjects, it ment to protect its own subjects, this could left an equal sum applicable to the purpose operate in no other way than as a subsidy of driving the French from the empire, or to that government. As to the Sinecure to that of crushing their power. It was a Bill, he did not mean that the whole suin subsidy then-a paltry and contemptible of 200,000). would be found in the Trea- subsidy as to the purpose of the war. sury, but that by that measure a saving From the resistance of Russia, if wisely would be effected equal to the interest of taken advantage of the greatest blessings that sum, which must be funded ; and of might ensue. This, however, was as yet which the interest must now be paid by uncertain. In the mean time, there were the people.

in some parts of this country cases of as Mr. Whitbread was sorry to say, that crying distress, as, out of the reach of war, the grant would not pass unanimously. On could possibly be. Suppose a grant propos. the Message being first read it had struck ed to these sufferers; would it not be said him that the grant was not proper; and on to be improper to attempt to alleviate pridiscussion with friends whom he respected, vate distress? But would it not be an act of. and who entertained sentiments on the sub- justice to our own country, before we went ject different from his own, he had not abroad with our charity, to know whefound reason to change his opinion. Some ther we had not objects at home, to whom of the grounds of his dissent from the grant it might be extended with advantage? had been stated by his right hon, friend.. Lord Castlereaghdisclaimed the idea that, He did not, moreover, think it just to this in consequence of this grant, we should country to take money out of the pockets be called upon to supply the wants of of our starving manufacturers, to apply it every country that might be reduced to a to sufferers to whom, unhappily, it could state of distress by the aggression of be of no use. Those unfortunate beings France. A principle so broad would lead who, as the Chancellor of the Exchequer to consequences, which, in the present conhad stated; had sought shelter from the vulsed state of Europe, it would be impos. severity of a Russian winter in their forests, sible for this country to meet. But the were now, alas! as senseless as the show question was, whether the sufferings of the with which they were surrounded : and people of Russia were not brought home how, if they continued to exist, could the to our feelings, both by the heroic exer.

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tions they had made, and by the important the shadow of the laws and constitution. effect which those exertions were likely to He regretted the disapprobation of the have on our own interests, in such a man motion expressed by the hon. member ner as to call for every relief and assis. who spoke last, but bore testimony to the tance in our power? The efforts of Russia manliness and sincerity with which that had been as gigantic as her sufferings had hon. gentleman, on all occasions, declared been without parallel; and it was not to be his opinions in that House. expected that equal sacrifices would again Sir F. Burdett said, he had heard many be made to call upon the House for their parts of the noble lord's speech with pleainterposition. An hon. member had treat. sure, but there was no part of it which he ed the proposal to afford relief to the Rus had heard with so much pleasure, as the sian people as chimerical, and even liable word. peace,' a word which he had not to the suspicion of hypocrisy. He should for a very long time heard from the other have thought this character much more side of the House. If he thought the preapplicable to the measure, if it had been sent grant would really tend to facilibrought forward in the shape (which that tate that most desirable object, a secure hon. gentleman recommended) of a suband honourable peace, there was no man sidy to the emperor Alexander. Nothing who would more readily and cordially could be more contemptible or insulting, agree to it than he would. He sincerely than a grant to such an extent to a power hoped that all the sacrifices and exertions struggling with the difficulties which which had been made, and of which so Russia had to encounter, and on the im- much had been said, would not end in a mense scale on which her military opera delusive sound, and that we should not be tions were carried on. But though its ef- embroiled in fresh wars on fresh successes. fect might not be so immediate or decisive But it had been,' in his opinion, justly as could be wished, in alleviating indivi- stated, that the proposed grant would not dual distress, yet he hoped it would come give effectual relief to the Russians; and, seasonably in aid of the patriotic contribu knowing the distresses of our own countions now raising by the Russian govern- trymen to be great, and feeling them as ment and nobles, to enable the peasantry he did, he could not assent to taking the and lower classes to resume their occupa. money out of the pockets of the poor of tions, and re-build their habitations, on this country, to waste it in nominal relief

the return of the mild season. By this to others. No attempt had been made by . grant we should shew that we understood parliament to retrench wasteful and super

the nature of the struggle in which we fluous excess in many of the departments were engaged, and were not insensible to of government ; no hint had been thrown the noble sacrifices which a whole people out, no intention had been expressed, had made, not only of temporary interests, tending that way. While this was the of local attachments, of ancient prejudices, case, he thought it his duty to resist every but almost of existence, to the cause of application to parliament for any extraorcountry and of king. We could not act dinary supplies, in the present exhausted wrong in subsidizing the best feelings of state of the country. It was not possible human nature. In this view, no act of go-to take up a paper; not a day passed, vernment had ever been more beneficial without accounts of distraining for the taxes than the relief which we had afforded to in different places. He did not understand Portugal. Should our troops be driven the principle of that generosity, which symback again to the lines of Torres Vedras, pathised only with the distresses of other the attention and sympathy we then ma countries, but had no feelings for those of nifested for the sufferings of the Portu- our own. Last year the sufferings of the guese, had left traces in the hearts of manufacturers in the northern and mid. the people, which would make lord Wel- land counties had been laid before parlia. lington's defence light and easy.-His ment with a view to some pecuniary relief Jordship concluded by alluding to the being afforded. Those sufferings were of flattering prospects of peace which might a nature to make every feeling heart probably be anticipated from the Rus- bleed. But the answer to the application sian successes; of a peace founded on was, that no relief could be be given, connational honour, on national security, sistently with the pressure of the times, and on the public law of Europe ; and with public economy. We paid dear a peace, by means of which every man for the prevalence of this sort of foreign might sit down in safety, and repose under sympathy; we had to maintaiu French



loyalists, Dutch loyalists, American loyal. PETITION FROM THE CHamber of Comists; but when he had come to the House MERCE OF EDINBURGH, respecting with a proposal of some better provision East INDIA COMPANY's AppAIRS.) A Pefor the worn-out servants of the public, tition of the chamber of commerce and veteran officers who were pining in po- manufactures of the city of Edinburgh, verty and obscurity, or the disabled was presented and read ; setting forth, cripple, whom we daily saw begging about “ That it hath been represented to the our streets, he had received the same cold petitioners, in their corporate capacity, answer. that the necessary expences of the that in the present limited state of the government were so great as to admit of commerce and manufactures of this no addition.

country, owing to the continental restricMr. Wilberforce said, that those gentle. tions laid thereon of late, the trading and men who opposed the grant found it hard manufacturing interests of Great Britain to reconcile their conduct to themselves. and Ireland have suffered greatly; and They could only do it by inventing some that many thousands of workmen em. other object of humanity which appeared ployed in our manufactures are reduced to claim the preference, or by denying to a state of poverty and idleness, without that the measure before the House would there being any immediate prospect of operate effectually to the relief of the suf- their being soon restored to their former ferers. He thought, that including the situation; and that, by the act of 33 Geo. 3, cheapness of provisions and the mode of c. 52, the East India Company are vested living in Russia, the sun, moderate as it in the exclusive right of trade and navigawas, would be of considerable immediate tion to all those countries comprehended service; but he conceived the principal between the Cape of Good Hope and the benefit to be expected from it, was, that Straits of Magellan, containing a populain other cases of a similar kind, it would tion of many millions of inhabitants; and be setting an example, and opening a that, although all the rest of his Majesty's channel, into which the charitable and subjects are thus excluded from trading liberal feelings of others would naturally to any of those extensive territories, yet, flow. An hon. gentleman had spoken by the act of 37 Geo. 3, c. 57, the same lightly of the grant, as not likely to ce- is allowed to the subjects of all foreign na. ment the two countries together. But he tions in amity with his Majesty; and that conceived that nothing had a greater in the East India Company are not known to fluence in strengthening political alliances have hitherto traded to many of these ex. than the manifestation of a friendly and tensive countries, their own settlements generous disposition between the people. and China excepted ; and that the private He did not see why nations as well as trade to the settlements of the East India individuals might not be both generous Company, under the regulations of the

He had attempted to make year 1793, is laid under so many resome calculation of the share of the ex- straints as tend to deter many people, espence which would fall upon the poor of pecially those who are at present unacthis country, but he had found it impos- quainted with India, and who reside at sible, and had given up the task in de home, from engaging in it, while fospair. He thought that we could only reigners, who pay no part of the heavy testify our gratitude to Providence for our taxes, imposed on the subjects of Great exemption from the heavier calamities of Britain and Ireland, are entirely relieved war, by shewing our sense of the suffer from the restraint of these regulations, by ings to which the inhabitants of other which means they are enabled not only countries, united with us in the same cause, successfully to combat the exertions of were unfortunately exposed.

the private traders from this country to Lord Cochrane gave his support to the India under the regulations of 1793, but motion, as the sum to be voted was not also to compete with the East India Comgreater than every ten days expence of pany itself, both in the east, and on the ihe war in the peninsula.

continent of Europe ; and that, were the The motion was then carried without a trade to the countries lying between the division.

Cape of Good Hope and the Straits of
Magellan laid open to the industry, ex-

ertion, and enterprize of the subjects of HOUSE OF COMMONS. Great Britain and Ireland at large, it Monday, December 21.

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sands of workmen employed in the manu- men employed by the petitioners would be factures of this kingdom, who are at pre- in the highest degree distressing, as they sent reduced to a state of idleness and con- would be found incapable of adapting their sequent poverty; it would create an addi- habits to new modes of business, and contional nursery for seamen, a set of men sequently both themselves and their fawho have, especially of late years, emi. milies would be deprived of the means of nently contributed to sustain the conse- subsistence; and praying the House to quence, perhaps even the political ex: take the circumstances into consideration, istence of this kingdom, and would, at the and prevent the dreadful consequences same time, prove the means of adding to that must otherwise ensue.” the riches, the revenue, and the national Ordered to lie upon the table. prosperity of the British empire ; and praying the House to take the premises Petition of James Philip Inglis.). Sir into consideration, and to grant such re. F. Burdett presented a Petition from James lief as to the House may seem necessary, Philip Inglis; setting forth, in a matter of such great national concern; “That the petitioner was appointed, on also to allow the petitioners to be heard, the 31st March 1812, to the command of by themselves or their counsel, at the Bar the government colonial brig Emine, and of the House, in support of the objects of ordered to proceed to New South Wales; this Petition."

and that the petitioner had used every ex.

ertion for the equipment of his vessel, and Petition FROM THE London Woollen was on the point of sailing to his place of PRESSERS, RESPECTING THE East India destination, when, on Thursday the 23d COMPANY'S AFFAIRS.) A Petition of se- of July last, about six in the evening, a veral pressers of London, employed by press galley belonging to the receiving the East India Company, was also pre- ship off the Tower came alongside the sented and read; setting forth,

Emine, commanded by Mr. Peachy, with “ That the affairs of the East India four of his ship's company, to whom he Company are intended shortly to be had given permission to go on shore, but brought before parliament, as signified by the midshipman not being in naval unihis royal highness the Prince Regent in form, the petitioner did not suppose him his Speech from the throne ; and the pe- to be a naval ollicer, although every retitioners humbly presume to state to the spect was shewn him; Mr. Peachy House, that they, in common with a great demanded a sight of the ship’s protection, number of other tradesmen employed by which was instantly complied with, and, them, residing in and near the city of after looking it over, returned it in a most London, derive their support from the disrespectful manner to the petitioner, woollen trade which is there carried on and said it was good for nothing, although by the East India Company; and that it it was an official document from the lords is by the most strict aitention to the va of the Admiralty protecting the crew of rious regulations which have been at dif- the said vessel ; that the petitioner desired ferent times made, and by the petitioners the men to go quietly in the galley, and punctually attended to, that the East In- that he would make immediate application dia Company's exports have secured the for their release; that the petitioner imconfidence with which they are received mediately quitted the deck, supposing the by the consumers in India ; and that the men to have proceeded to the Tower, but petitioners being appointed pressers of was informed, whilst below, that part of woollen goods to the East India Company, the ship's company had gone into the jollyhave, in consequence, expended large boat, shoved off to rescue their shipniates, sums of money in forming establishments and returned with them on board; and suitable to those regulations in the dif- that the petitioner begs to state to the ferent departments of the woollen trade House, that on the next day, Nr. Garty, which they respectively exercise, all from the Thames Police Office, came on which, in the event of the East India board with a warrant from Mr. Herriot for Company's trade being thrown open, his apprehension; he immediately subwould be the ruin of the petitioners, who mitted himself, and underwent an examiwould have no other means of employing nation before Mr. Herriot the same day, their expensive implements, which would who ordered the petitioner to be combe rendered useless, and to them of no mitted to Clerkenwell Prison; he was value ; and that the situation of the work. then locked up in a place at the Thames (VOL. XXIV,)


Police office, the most horrible to be con- the petitioner begs to say, that his received, till about eight in the evening, maining property is in the East India when he was taken out and handcuffed to Company's Funds at Madras, which is a a person of supposed despicable character, circumstance that subjects him to great and in that state was conveyed to Clerk- inconvenience in being so long detained enwell Prison ; and that, upon the 25th, in this country, and praying, that the the petitioner was brought down hand- House will take his case into their immecuffed, and underwent a similar exami. diate consideration, and afford him such nation as on the preceding day before relief as they may judge proper." Mr. Herriot, and remanded back to jail, Ordered to lie upon the table. handcuffed in the same manner as he was brought up, to remain till the 31st; and that PetitioN OF The Relatives of PeRSONS the petitioner begs to state, that, during CONTINED IN ILCHESTER GAOL FOR Riots the time of his confinement in Clerkenwell at Bath.] Sır F. Burdsit rose to present Prison, he was locked up with every de-a Petition from the friends and relatives scription of people, and obliged to submit of certain persons now confined in Ilchesto the indignity of taking half a bed with ter gaol. The parties were resident at a man in irons, much injurious to his Bath, and the individuals in confinement health, and most repugnant to his feel- had been committed in consequence of ings; and that the pečilioner was again assembling riotously before the town ball, ordered down on the 31st of the same during the last election in that city, and month, before Mr. Herriot, when, upon demanding in a tumultuous manner that the

a examination of the surgeon of the receivo doors of the hall should be opened. This ing ship, he was admitted to bail, in con- was refused, and some windows were sequence of the man belonging to the broken. The next day these persons press-galley, who had been wounded in were seized, and had been treated with a the scuffe, being considered out of danger, severity which nothing could justify. The and for which the petitioner had been particulars of that severity were set forth committed to Clerkenwell Prison; and in the Petition which he held in his hand. that the petitioner, anxious to be brought The offence was certainly bailable, and to trial at the then impending assizes for bail to any amount had been offered, but the county of Kent, desired his attorney, was refused. They were then sent to Mr. Armam, to remonstrate against any Ilchester gaol, and being all of them delay in his trial, as the assizes were so people who maintained their families by near at hand, and the consequences of their own labour, the greatest distress had delay so ruinous to the petitioner; and ensued to them. One was a journeyman that the solicitor for the Admiralty, Mr. printer, another a journeyman carpenter, Bicknell, would not acquiesce to his and another was a poor woman who earned wishes, although the petitioner was willing her subsistence by carrying goods home to have remained in prison in order to from the markets. They were, of course, expedite bis trial; and that the petitioner unable to obtain justice by any legal probegs leave to call the attention of the The petitioners set forth that they House to his extreme hard case, in being were confined in solitary cells and heavily denied taking his trial at a time when he ironed. All access to them by their friends could have received the benefit of his wit- or relations who might be disposed to allenesses, who

are now absent from this viate the hardships of their lot, was denied. country on their voyage to New South During this severe weather they had noWales, and who would have given every thing to sleep on but a little straw in satisfactory evidence on his behalf, if his stone dungeon, and covered with a trial had been permitted to have come scanty rug; and though some hamane on at the last assizes; and that the peti persons in the town had provided them tioner humbly represents, that he has with great coats, yet they were stripped been subject to a very heavy expence in of these every night before they were furnishing himself with the necessary locked up in their cells. The ordinary articles for the intended service, and hour of locking them up was about four which, with incidental charges, amounts o'cloik. Their food was nothing but to upwards of 1,1001. added to wbich, he bread and water; and to convince the has a wife and two children, one of whom House that he was not dwelling upon is completely dumb, and for whose educa- feigned or imaginary distresses, he would lion he is at a great expence; and that shew them one of the loaves which had



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